Rendering Unto Bill

I thoroughly enjoyed Bill’s Sermon.

His points are very interesting, and as an Episcopalian I have no problem with him straying off the theological reservation (The Nineteen Articles: It’s all good!).

He does lose me on the Christian persecution bit. I tend to think of persecution as when they come and shoot you for following your beliefs. If I ever get up the gumption, I’ll issue a concurring opinion elaborating our theological similarities and our glaring divides.

But go read. Really. It is good stuff.

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You can’t render unto Bill.

He is Vercingetorix.

I am Ceasar…



Bill said:

In this day and age it is easier to regulate than to shot. Besides, the left hates firearems. I don’t believe in special advantage to religion, but I don’t believe in disadvatage either. The number of lawsuits that ended up in district court over the refusal of schools to allow a religious group the same privileges as a secular group are amazing. It has to do with a false wall between church and state. But that is another subject for a blog post. Suffice it to say that inequality of permission amounts to persecution when the motives are examined.

Thanks for the link and kind words.

Loyal minion Bill



Brian B said:

Shot would be called “Martyrdom”. There are varying degrees of persecuution up to that point. And while the Church in America doesn’t have it as bad as we sometimes complain, our brethren in other parts of the world ARE suffering persecution AND martyrdom. Check out the websites of the ministries Open Doors and Voice of the Martyrs.



I’m with you Brian.

One of the reasons the whininess of my co-religionists in America bothers me is because it denigrates the sacrifices that Christians are making every day in countries where persecution is real.

Not having a coach lead prayer is not persecution. In fact, it is the reverse; how would you feel if the coach was a Muslim/Protestant/Catholic/Mormon/Jew/Sikh who follows a belief different from your football-playing child? Best to let the kids handle it themselves. This is not to say that the kids shouldn’t take plurality into account, but if a kid is going to feel religiously excluded, it is better that it is happening due to peer demographics than imposed from above by an agent of the state (like a football coach, teacher, or principal).



Brian B said:

I agree that that example is a poor one, but it would be disingenuous to claim that that is the worst example of how American Christians are treated. I would not call what we encounter persecution, at least not YET, but the way the culture creeps, I can easily see it reaching that state one day.



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